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Title: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: SirBlackFox on March 19, 2007, 01:27:15 AM
Am I the only pyrate here?

eeegads mates, the Royal Navy must have cut out many tongues (and/or salty digits).  Well let me be the first to say Arrrgh (not Savvy, which is an aboriginal american term).


I publish The Pyrates Way magazine (www.pyratesway.com) and would invite ye all to check out said publication as I am in hopes to further include the pyratical side of re-enactment into our subject matter!

Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Frederick Barbarossa on June 10, 2007, 02:18:14 PM
I going to join a Privateer group, 1680ad English.
That's if I can finish sewing some stuff first.
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Sturmkatze on June 13, 2007, 10:59:19 PM
Am I the only pyrate here?
Not quite, but if you'd like to help get more here, you can be a moderator :-0
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Cpl. Hicks on July 01, 2007, 11:04:03 PM
I do Pyrate, approx. 1700.
Still lots of work to go on it. :P
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: cheekyactress on July 13, 2007, 10:28:34 AM
Hello Gentleman?or should I say, Pyrates?!

It is always nice to see a gathering about.  I am a crew member of the reenacting/living history group called The Archangel. We portray pyrates/privateers during the GAoP.   

Are any of you affiliated with other living history groups out there? 

Most of our members are based here in the Midwest, but we do have members all over the United States.   

CheekyActress
Aka Lisa   
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Sterling on July 15, 2007, 12:17:45 AM
Ahoy to you all and especially you Cheeky.  Sterling here, captain of the Archangel crew(http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j267/captsterling/5b2f.jpg)
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: cheekyactress on July 26, 2007, 05:13:06 PM
Welcome Captain Sterling....

And for those of you who are out and about the midwest in the month of August, there are two events the Crew of the Archangel will be attending.  Please look for us if you do attend.


The Pike River Rendezvous

Friday, August 3, 2007; Noon to 5:00 p.m.
Saturday, August 4, 2007; 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.
Sunday, August 5, 2007; 9:00 a.m. to 4:00 p.m.
Simmons Island Park, 50th Street and 4th Avenue

The Pike River Rendezvous is one of the largest fur-trapping and trading reenactments in the area!

Historical reenactors accurately portray life in the former Northwest Territory from 1670 to 1830 using interpreters and including demonstrations of the trades and crafts of the early settlers. Food and other refreshments are available, as well as children's activities. Step back in time and experience life as it was over 200 years ago!

Pirates of Paynetown
August 10th through 12th, 2007:
Paynetown State Recreation Area at Monroe Lake, Bloomington, IN.
Featuring: Replica Ships, Dueling, Swordsmen, Pirate ship battles over the water, Pirate encampment, Treasure hunts, Sea shanties And more await all who dare?

If you have any questions, please email me.

Cheeky





Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Raevon on September 13, 2007, 08:17:42 PM
Am I the only pyrate here?

eeegads mates, the Royal Navy must have cut out many tongues (and/or salty digits).  Well let me be the first to say Arrrgh (not Savvy, which is an aboriginal american term).


I publish The Pyrates Way magazine (www.pyratesway.com) and would invite ye all to check out said publication as I am in hopes to further include the pyratical side of re-enactment into our subject matter!



Nay, ye 're not the only pyrate.  But are they truly sure that a pirate of old said "Arrrrgh"?   
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: cheekyactress on September 14, 2007, 11:28:06 AM
You are right to question the manner and speech of pyrates, Raeven.  This is just one of the stereotypes are crew is trying debunk.

Of course, this would all depend on if you what to be a Real Pyrate or a Reel Pyrate (Hollywood) - Great topic of discussion. 

This that being said,  September 19, 2007 is "Talk like a Pyrate Day".


Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Raevon on September 14, 2007, 01:18:37 PM
You are right to question the manner and speech of pyrates, Raeven.  This is just one of the stereotypes are crew is trying debunk.

Of course, this would all depend on if you what to be a Real Pyrate or a Reel Pyrate (Hollywood) - Great topic of discussion. 

This that being said,  September 19, 2007 is "Talk like a Pyrate Day".




That whole "arrrrgh" thing has always gotten to me. 

I definitely agree with the Reel Pyrate aspect but I do think for the most part except for 'Savvy" and a few other words, the accents in POTC were closer than anyone else has gotten.  The majority of pyrates were either British Isles, Spainish and then the few spatterings from other coutries.  So some would have a 'cockney' accent,( i.e. 'ello). 

Now others if they were Privateers or Cosairs; they would be more educated, and would have spoken proper English or French.

"Talk like a Pyrate Day" if you live in the right part of the country, they are having a lot of parties that day.  I am in J-ville so the closet to me in Fort Lauderdale.  And with the 19th being in the middle of the week, I don't see it happening.   ;D

Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: cheekyactress on September 14, 2007, 02:37:11 PM
Granted, when we think of Pyrates..we always think of the English -  ;D  But there were the Spanish, of course, but let us not forget the French and the Dutch, too (GAoP time period).

Areas such as Cornwell, Dorset, Devonshire, Somerset, and Wales (the English West Country) were great harbors of the fishing and wool trade (thus the ?West Country? accent).

Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Raevon on September 14, 2007, 03:11:21 PM
Very true.  I think when we hear pyrates, we only think of British or the Carribean and what not. 

But there were French pyrates and Jean Lafitte (sp?) was one.  And they definitely do not think of the Far East having pyrates when they did as well and even into the 19th century when the GAoP had long ended in the West.
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Sturmkatze on September 15, 2007, 01:07:36 AM
Okay, well here ya go (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cKCkbWDGwE) ARRRRgggggghhhh! :-
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Sturmkatze on September 15, 2007, 01:16:58 AM
Or here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWnxsVcNL2w).
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Raevon on September 15, 2007, 02:41:57 PM
Or here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWnxsVcNL2w).

:D  :D   Now I am not sure but I doubt that YouTube is the authentic piece of research that we wish to send out for newbies in any reenacting era to use.    :D   :D
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Sturmkatze on September 18, 2007, 11:50:57 AM
no, but they were amusing and I'm just poking the toad... long, working weekend and troubles this AM  :O>@ C'est La Vie!
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Raevon on September 18, 2007, 03:49:06 PM
no, but they were amusing and I'm just poking the toad... long, working weekend and troubles this AM  :O>@ C'est La Vie!

I understand.  They were quite entertaining but some others are more amusing on there. 
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Sturmkatze on September 18, 2007, 05:16:56 PM
Oh hell, you should post them... if we can't laugh at ourselves, well then who can we laugh at?
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Raevon on September 18, 2007, 08:51:29 PM
Here is a funny one:  http://youtube.com/watch?v=CU0q-A_zQdU

Also, just go to YouTube.com and click on Dragon Con and you will also see bloopers!!  It looks like it was a great time and I wish I had gone..
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Sterling on September 24, 2007, 12:59:26 PM
Back to the language at least for GAoP and the English (since they along with Welsh and Scottish by far top the list of pirates from the time frame), just read up on such as the Verneys' letters, Defoe and Johnson's history... you'll easily get a taste for it from them.  Can't say I've come across an arrrrgh yet amongst them... so much for Hollyweird....
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Raevon on September 24, 2007, 10:50:58 PM
Back to the language at least for GAoP and the English (since they along with Welsh and Scottish by far top the list of pirates from the time frame), just read up on such as the Verneys' letters, Defoe and Johnson's history... you'll easily get a taste for it from them.  Can't say I've come across an arrrrgh yet amongst them... so much for Hollyweird....

That is very true, Sterling.  In all of my readings and such I have not come across the imfamous "arrrrrsh".   Most pirates of the Carribean were from the British Isles with a splash of French, Spainish, and Dutch so they would have they dialect from their country.

But you are right as to say that Verney's letters and Dafoe and Johnson histories are better equipped to answer the question.  Some other items are the "General History of the Pyrates," Woodes Rogers, Exquemelin, and William Dampier. I also feel safe with  Marryat, as he, like Dafoe, was an experienced seaman writing for contemporaries.
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Sterling on September 24, 2007, 11:45:14 PM
Aye but if 'tis Federick Marryat, he and his contemporaries did not hail from the time of the GAoP.  So unfortunately regarding speech of the times, he would be perhaps ... suspect.
Title: Re: The Pyrates Way, mates
Post by: Raevon on September 25, 2007, 11:45:10 AM
Aye, tis true. I have also read books on 'Queen Anne's War' you will not only know the language and dialect of the time plus it also talks about The Treaty of Utrecht and what made some of them become pirates like Blackbeard.. 

But if you read any works by Dampier, Sieur Raveneau de Lussan, Lionel Wafer and I know of more but I can't think of them right now.  You will also understand more about the time.