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Title: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Sturmkatze on March 04, 2008, 07:06:05 PM
I am leaning towards Obama -- I know many will disagree, but in my humble opinion, Hillary will be the doom of this country w/ her Maoist ideas and McCain, well I'm sorry, but he's a liberal in conservative's clothing... that along w/ the fact I just can't shake the "Manchurian Candidate" idea  :-[ Also, John McCain is NOT for gun owner's rights... Where do we go? What do YOU think? (politely please)
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Huntar on March 04, 2008, 07:54:19 PM
Obama isn't for gun owners rights either.... http://www.gunowners.org/

i pick ron paul.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Antonescu on March 04, 2008, 08:27:04 PM
The Democratic Party has evolved into the Communist/Socialist Party while the Republican Party had changed into the old Democrat Party. Obama is way worse then Clinton but doubt the Republican base will allow "old fart" McCain to do anything to gunowners rights.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Sturmkatze on March 04, 2008, 10:17:33 PM
Strangely enough, not all Democrats. Ron Paul has no chance... as for rest, we'll just have to see. Too bad people won't join th NRA... oh well, ya cannot win.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Antonescu on March 05, 2008, 06:08:39 AM
Well, I listened to the debates for both parties :'(. As a Social Studies teacher I will honestly say the Democrats are very much communist/socialist in their views and nieve in how to get the country out of debt (raise taxes and give to the poor). Aftr 18 years as a member of the party, I switched to Republican because I feel that we made it through education and hard work so the poor need to strive to make it to middle class on their own without government help, getting the Hispanic vote by allowing illegals to stay and get driver's license, etc. is out of the question and the gun laws the Dem's have made in NY and NJ are becoming just like the ones in the Third Reich (eventually none to be allowed). The old Republican base will keep their candidate grounded because right now he can't do a thing without them. So looks like McCain's b***s are tied to the wall you might say.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Rockman on March 05, 2008, 12:08:44 PM
Wow! Gotta say that I agree with Antonescu 100 percent.  Great description of the Republicans!  Soooo.... what is there to do, given the crappy choices that we're stuck with?  Like it or not, it's pretty much a two party show, here.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Oskar_2ndChev on March 05, 2008, 01:59:05 PM
I'll go with McCain. He may not be the best choice but Obama doesn't promise anything good and we've already had a "taste" of Clinton so we know what she's capable of (and no doubt will try).
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Rockman on March 06, 2008, 11:58:49 AM
Yeah...  Guess McCain gets my vote by default.  --Just kind of sucks to pick the lesser evil and vote against the greater evil!  It'd sure be nice for a change, to cast a vote FOR something/someone, instead of voting a " damage control " vote to hope & try to keep things from getting more ridiculous.  I dunno... I'll probably not be satisfied with anything or anyone unless I get to be made dictator, or barring that, George Carlin gets elected president.... 0|
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Sturmkatze on March 06, 2008, 01:45:25 PM
Thing is, I don't think it matters anymore. Well, not much... Congress is the one who does the law making and money-taking. ANyway, I supported GW and now am tired of it... time to go w/ someone who's for change. Flip a coin, as long as one side of that doesn't have the witch on it.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Rockman on March 06, 2008, 02:01:28 PM
Yeah, and all the flying monkeys that come with her!
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: battlebaby4 on March 08, 2008, 01:12:50 PM
I agree too many Americans are falling prey to Commie / Pinko Ideas. It was only sometime ago we fought against this thinking, Cold War.
 Maybe I'll write in Al Bundy from the old  TV series "Married With Children." as president.

 Pat
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Antonescu on March 09, 2008, 08:40:54 AM
I agree too many Americans are falling prey to Commie / Pinko Ideas. It was only sometime ago we fought against this thinking, Cold War.
 Maybe I'll write in Al Bundy from the old  TV series "Married With Children." as president.

 Pat

I would suggest Captain America as a write in candidate. He fights for American values! ;D
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: FJR1 on March 24, 2008, 03:00:43 AM
The National election this year is exactly like one many years ago - nixon vs mcgovern.  You either voted for a lying thieving bastard or a socialist/pro communist.  I voted for the bastard and fortunately he won.
I'll make the same choice this year and vote for "The Manchurian Candidate" and HOPE he wins.    ;-(    0|
Sarge
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: michaelsbagley on March 25, 2008, 10:29:29 AM
I only wish I got to vote in this election... So please do take everything I say with the fact that I am a LEGAL resident, who is not a citizen and hence does not have voting rights in the next US election.

The Democrats in this country are way too much maligned. Yeah, they're leftist, but even if they win, the system is set up in such a way that they CAN NOT affect change to the degree that the "they're commies" crowd seems to paint their party with.

As for commies, the Democrats were AGAINST the patriot act. I'm sorry, but Republicans that preach of their freedom their party stands for and applaudes the  Republican party for it's results are in a very bad need of a reality check.

While I am for the retaining of freedom to bear arms, I am also for personal liberty. The Democrats can not and will not ever get enough power to effectively make any national changes to gun control laws, the Republicans have successfully managed to instill more anti-freedom laws in the last 8 years than any WESTERN political party since Germany in the late 1930s. That is not a slam, that is a fact.

I am a non-partisan voter when I have the power to vote (as in my home country)... There are times when I would definately lean more to voting more to the Republican way of thinking than the Democratic way. But the US has moved a little too far to the right in recent years, and it is high time it gets a little leftist influence to balance it out again.

If you want to complain about the economy. There is ONLY ONE solution to that problem. Military spending. The country's economay CAN NOT SUPPORT two active wars (Iraq and Afganistan, with other possible wars looming on the horizon). That is not an anti-war statement, it is just a fact of numbers.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Sturmkatze on March 26, 2008, 12:26:13 AM
The economy problem is NOT so much the wars, but the price of fuel. THAT is causing (and will cause MORE) a lot of woe. Hell, as a truck driver I can tell you that there is talk of shutting down all trucks on April 3rd. We'll see... if they did it -- if they had cojones like French truck drivers, well, we might get somewhere, but I have my doubts about my brethren.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: groomporter on March 26, 2008, 08:54:48 AM
But ya gotta remember that a continuing occupation of a Middle Eastern oil producing country contributes to the price of oil...
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Sturmkatze on March 26, 2008, 09:08:41 AM
NO, it doesn't or at least it shouldn't. The price of a barrel of oil is artificially high and I look forward to the next oil crash and the ruin of many of these scumbags. We need something like in '86... Us being in Iraq should mean oil prices from there would be CHEAPER, but... someone (wonder WHO) isn't letting that happen. Maybe they need to pay us reparations for freeing them.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: 416RifleRgt on March 26, 2008, 10:38:59 AM
NO, it doesn't or at least it shouldn't. The price of a barrel of oil is artificially high...

I wouldn't quite say it's artifically high.  Ignoring the fact that OPEC has us by the short hairs and refuses to raise production there is a huge issue that is hurting us all.  The fact that Oil is priced in USD.  Notice that lately the dollar has taken a nose dive.  The weaker the dollar gets, the higher the price of oil will go.

Heaven help us if OPEC gets their way and oil gets priced in EUROS.  Nothing against the EURO as it's a strong currency, however here in the US gas prices would rocket.  Suddenly the $70 to fill your tank would become $100+

I fear reenacting will suffer this summer.  More and more folks are saying gas prices are keeping them from making events more that a couple hours from home.  Let's face it.  It's hard to haul a tent and gear in a hatchback that gets 50mpg.   0|

-dave

Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: atlanticwallblanks on April 15, 2008, 07:46:20 AM
Fred Thompson '08!  ;-(  yea, that will work.

Obama is a soothe talking communist.  He is no different than Hillery, he just lacks the experience to be as evil as her. 

He will try to end our hobby through "common sense" gun legislation or other means.

Again  this election we are faced with a idiot and the anti-christ....democracy is so wonderful sometimes.  I'll take the idiot (again).

Robb

 
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Antonescu on April 23, 2008, 10:03:44 PM
Actually there is a difference between Hillary and Obama. Whereas Obama would sit down with Ahmadinejad and talk to him over the issues while they would launch a nuclear strike against Isreal, Hillary said we would be ready to obliterate them if they did.

Now on to the discussion of the candidates according to what they would do.

Obama would have laws (at least try to) controlling guns along the lines of Germany during the 3rd Reich but not to the point of banning them. Would raise the federal tax on salaries to spread the wealth out to everyone. He didn't help his image with the statement basically saying small town Americans are bible carrying, gun toting biggots. During the ABC debate he couldn't answer the questions on his policies at all. Completely stumbled then whined about how tough ABC was on him. Christ, look how hard the other debates were against Hillary. He also supports giving licenses to illegal immigrants and would allow them to all stay here in the US. Now, how is that fair to all those who came here who did it legally?

Hillary and the evil one both support universal healthcare. However I think Hillary would force everyone to join while he would make it for a certain amount. however, have you been to a hospital in a country with universal healthcare? I have in Romania and I will not support that here in the US. IT SUCKS!!!!!! Had to bribe a doctor with $500 to get seen since they made you go on a waiting list.

McCain is also not a true Republican. However, he is looking very closely for a semi-conservative (at least I hope) VP candidate and the conservatives will keep him in check to a stronger degree than the communists in the Democratic Party would with their candidate.

Earlier it was mentioned that the US going to the left a little was good. How? The US stands for free-market capitalism, work hard to have a secure future while those of socialism/communism made everyone equal in all aspects. People are not all equal actually. A pig farmer should make the same amount as a medical doctor? I wouldn't want to go to my doctor then since he/she would not care hardly anymore or not do a great job of diagnosing me. Look at Western Europe itself when it went to the left. High unemployment in France besides alot of the countries have elected a more conservative form of government. The socialists allowed a lot of radical followers of Islam into their respective countries and now unable to control them. Like the French politicias said, "The muslims have no respect for French culture. They only care about their own and to spread their beliefs."

Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: atlanticwallblanks on April 24, 2008, 10:22:49 PM
Rob they are going to take away your New York  citizenship card if you keep talking like that.

Robb
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Antonescu on April 25, 2008, 12:20:35 AM
Rob they are going to take away your New York  citizenship card if you keep talking like that.

Robb

They wouldn't have to ask, they can gladly have it back!! Communist/socialist morons!
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Sturmkatze on April 25, 2008, 09:03:13 AM
Rob they are going to take away your New York  citizenship card if you keep talking like that.

Robb

They wouldn't have to ask, they can gladly have it back!! Communist/socialist morons!
Then WHY do you live there? The Rotten Apple is neat to visit, but you couldn't PAY me to live there.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Antonescu on April 25, 2008, 10:01:25 PM
Then WHY do you live there? The Rotten Apple is neat to visit, but you couldn't PAY me to live there.

Because my wife works for one of those "Evil Hedge funds" that everyone is blaming for the economy. They pay here a stipend to live near work and that pays for 97% of the rent. Only pay $600 to live in mid-town Manhattan which is dirt cheap. However, we are looking at houses outside of the city and I am looking at property in WV and PA as well.

The Democrats in NY have screwed this state up badly and the unions think it is still the early 20th century in their thinking, we are the gods of the working class mentality doesn't help much either. Don't get me wrong, my dad was UMWA as well as grandfathers and I am a member of the UFT (AFL-CIO). But jesus, doorman at buildings need a union as well as the grocery store employee's? Give me a break.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Sturmkatze on April 25, 2008, 11:39:48 PM
The Democrats in NY have screwed this state up badly and the unions think it is still the early 20th century in their thinking, we are the gods of the working class mentality doesn't help much either. Don't get me wrong, my dad was UMWA as well as grandfathers and I am a member of the UFT (AFL-CIO). But jesus, doorman at buildings need a union as well as the grocery store employee's? Give me a break.
Everyone needs representation sometimes... Hell, I'm a driver and we don't have it and the owner of the company I work for, believes the employees are his personal property... of course, the Labor Board coming in and yanking his leash recently brought him up short. It just hasn't occurred to Ebeneezer that they have labor board in other areas >:( Oh well, I told him before, "Ya gotta pay people right!" What do I know?

And no, I don't think unions are the end-all, be all of life. Most ARE a bit much, but in some cases (many) the company thinks it's above the law.
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Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: atlanticwallblanks on April 28, 2008, 06:13:41 PM
Rob, not to be nosy, but is that $600 a month AFTER they pay 97%......

You need to get out of that communist place regardless.   I think things are going to get a bit tight in the wallet real soon no matter who becomes president.  Lower rent can't hurt.  While Hillery / Obama will only try to tax us out of recension.

I used to be totally anti-union, but even as management all my life, I can say that there are some places that still need them and others that should get them by the way the management treats the workers.  I see poor treatment of workers becoming a problem again in this day and age.

Robb
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Sturmkatze on April 28, 2008, 07:07:46 PM
I used to be totally anti-union, but even as management all my life, I can say that there are some places that still need them and others that should get them by the way the management treats the workers.  I see poor treatment of workers becoming a problem again in this day and age.
I used to WAY against them, but you're right -- companies are treating workers like shite again and they feel it's okay. "Everything for the company" seems to be the word of the day -- I am usually regarded as a "non-team player" when I say "Family first!" >:( Like the workers are their serfs. My boss is becoming that way -- you should see the idiotic crap they say when someone catches them doing something wrong. hell, they just got popped in NH by the labor board and he still hasn't learned. One of the reasons I got out of management. Oh well, they'll learn... hope it's not before the country collapses.
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Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Rockman on May 01, 2008, 01:07:52 PM
Yeah.  I can't understand how management can be so heavily reliant on the young "whiz kids" fresh out of college, with ZIP for practical experience in positions of responsibility.  I'm pretty sure they ought to be really glad that DUELLING isn't an accepted practice these days.  Some of their policies & decisions are downright OFFENSIVE to the workforce.
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: Sturmkatze on May 01, 2008, 11:41:26 PM
I'm pretty sure they ought to be really glad that DUELLING isn't an accepted practice these days.  Some of their policies & decisions are downright OFFENSIVE to the workforce.
Oh yeah. Were it, I'd have had at the boss w/ swords (http://www.reenactor.net/Themes/workingtheme/images/global_mod.gif) (numerous bosses over the years, actually). I wonder if we could bring it back :P Sure would do wonders for manners in this country!!! (^)
Title: Re: Who will be best for reenactors?
Post by: groomporter on May 04, 2008, 09:21:07 AM
You could move to Australia  ;D

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