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Offline strangepair03

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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2007, 08:47:04 PM »
Fair enough.
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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2007, 10:22:46 PM »

Underage drinking should not be allowed or encouraged, but its hardly like reenacting is the cause or the only place that it happens. 
 But I don't think reencating is the cause of it.

Reenacting isn't the cause and that is not the issue. The issue is the commanders and nco's of these units supplying the booze to the minors at the events and encouraging them to keep up with them. 

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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2007, 10:22:46 PM »
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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #17 on: August 15, 2007, 08:30:55 AM »
I agree, if a unit CO is getting into drinking competitions with underage kids, thats bad and should be stopped.  There is no place for that.

I don't understand why this has any baring to this topic, but, I am not with any unit at this time.  I am looking to join one down the road, possibly.  Still not sure if my finances will permit it.


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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #18 on: August 15, 2007, 09:39:56 AM »
Each part of the country has units who are not doing the right thing which is using your head and behaving like adults.

The strippers might not be an issue but when someone is paying the military to use a part of the base then I am sure that having civies dressed up in WWII doing this on top of heavy drinking, shooting firearms in the barracks, etc. might leave a bad taste in the base commanders mouth if he'she ever would find out.

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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #19 on: August 15, 2007, 01:36:29 PM »
I agree, could be bad news.  How often is this kind of thing happening?

Thanks for the list, but that listing does not tell me who the better or worst units are. 

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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #20 on: August 15, 2007, 01:56:20 PM »
It doesn't happen that often -- a few bad apples spoil it for everyone else. Anyway, Rob and Harry are on a crusade to nip it in the bud before it ruins the hobby! Kudos to them!  ;)
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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #21 on: August 15, 2007, 03:12:51 PM »
From my experience, incidents such as underage drinking and the like, public intoxication and the like have been handled pretty quickly and the offending parties dealt with. There's a big incentive for event organizers to deal with this sort of thing since they have the legal liability for the consequences of such behavior. No group is going to want to expose themselves to lawsuits and other legal action so when it comes down to it, the choice is pretty easy- eject and ban the offending parties.

Fortunately, there are only a few bad apples and they don't last too long.
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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #22 on: August 15, 2007, 11:22:09 PM »
I agree, could be bad news.  How often is this kind of thing happening?

Thanks for the list, but that listing does not tell me who the better or worst units are. 

Where are you located first? That would be helpful.
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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #23 on: August 15, 2007, 11:29:03 PM »
From my experience, incidents such as underage drinking and the like, public intoxication and the like have been handled pretty quickly and the offending parties dealt with. There's a big incentive for event organizers to deal with this sort of thing since they have the legal liability for the consequences of such behavior. No group is going to want to expose themselves to lawsuits and other legal action so when it comes down to it, the choice is pretty easy- eject and ban the offending parties.

Fortunately, there are only a few bad apples and they don't last too long.

Well it must work totally opposite here. Over the last 5 years have seen the same individuals/units who might be part of the problem still coming around. It seems that the event organizers are afraid to say no to them for some reason. Not on a crusade but would like to see some more adult behavior at certain events. Like I already said that 90% of us drink and have a good time but after a certain point we know when enough is enough. Some of the issues have been going around through emails and I was just lucky enough to be on one of the lists to receive them. Some have been confirmed by people at the events besides the person who is informing others. It was after the illegal substances one that I decided to see what other reenactors think should be done.
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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #24 on: August 16, 2007, 03:32:08 AM »
All it takes is one incident where the police are called and it's all over real fast. If the event organizers won't do anything, then they either are very stupid or very rich (or all of the above) and it's clear that they don't really care about the long-term health of the hobby. Unfortunately, in those cases, sometimes a wake-up call is necessary.
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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #25 on: August 16, 2007, 07:22:57 AM »
All it takes is one incident where the police are called and it's all over real fast. If the event organizers won't do anything, then they either are very stupid or very rich (or all of the above) and it's clear that they don't really care about the long-term health of the hobby. Unfortunately, in those cases, sometimes a wake-up call is necessary.

You are absolutely correct. One incident and it will be bad. Its ashame that these units are allowed to attend events at all just because of what they might be able to bring. 5/6 years ago it was about the quality of those attending but lately it seems that quality can be overshowered by quantity. Once something happens and the hobby takes a severe blow then they will wake-up but it will be too little too late by that point.
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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #26 on: August 16, 2007, 12:19:50 PM »
I agree, could be bad news.  How often is this kind of thing happening?

Thanks for the list, but that listing does not tell me who the better or worst units are. 

Where are you located first? That would be helpful.

I am in the southeast, but will probably be moving back up north to be with my folks. 

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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #27 on: August 16, 2007, 12:37:56 PM »
I agree, could be bad news.  How often is this kind of thing happening?

Thanks for the list, but that listing does not tell me who the better or worst units are. 

Where are you located first? That would be helpful.

I am in the southeast, but will probably be moving back up north to be with my folks. 

Well there are some good units down there and where in the North? Also, Allied or Axis?
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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #28 on: August 16, 2007, 02:00:14 PM »
Well, I think I wouldl do axis. 

My folks live in New Jersey. 

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Re: Behavior at Events
« Reply #29 on: August 16, 2007, 02:59:54 PM »
Well, I think I wouldl do axis. 

My folks live in New Jersey. 

You want to come back! Thats a shocker since most here who reenact would like to get out. Where are you now? If you do Axis then German, Hungarian, Romanian? And if German Luftwaffe FD, Heer, Waffen-SS, Kreigsmarine?
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Re: Behavior at Events
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